MsMollie
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« on: March 24, 2010, 10:54:11 AM » |
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I was wondering....Regina, I saw your posters that you made...awesome! However, if you don't have many pics to make a poster, what do you do? Is it ok to use some off the internet that you feel like you can paint? I wouldn't want to make anyone mad or do anything illegal. At this point, i don't have many that I can put on a poster....suggestions?
Also, how do you advertise during an event about what the cost of each one is? Do you make a list and post it or post it by whether it's cheek art, half face, or full face? I want to keep it simple as possible but not sure how to go about it....
I had the cost posted by the group, but sometimes feel like i need to make changes....suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 11:23:39 AM » |
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Good Afternoon MsMollie, When my first order of face paints came into the mail, they came on a Thursday, and my very first paid gig was on a Saturday! Needless to say I had no pictures to show, so this is what I did and I still use these books for the children to look at. I went and bought three plastic three ring flip folders. Drew out a templete of a couple different faces, one full view face and one side view face. I took poster paints, because they are cheap and I didn't want to use my expensive face paints on paper, I made one book for guy designs, one for gal designs and one for animal and tiger designs. if you noticed the colorful pictures that laid on the table side by side are of little cheek art samples that I drew out and painted. I am posting the templetes so you can see what they are. They are the size of a child head. I also print tons of these out for practice sheets, I then just treated the templete as if it were my model and painted designs on them, worked great, slid them in to paper protectors and put them into the three ring binder. Every design that I do, I have done myself, I would feel bad if I couldn't produce the design the client wanted, and if I didn't paint it, I don't offer it at a gig. But I do give you my permission to use any of mine if you need some pics to get started, www.ginanewsum@myphotobucket.com For pricing, at a pay as you paint gig, I have my prices on that big colorful stand up board, it clamps onto the table. It takes a while to figure out exactly what you want your set up to look like, it takes a long time to collect great pictures, I paint on mymself all the time, so I use alote of myself for pictures, and I have four daughters that I get them! and about 8 neighbor kids!  
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Gina from Michigan!
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 11:25:25 AM » |
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opppps opppppps - correction MsMollie, that web site address is wrong, I didn't notice it until after I sent it! www.ginanewsum@myphotoalbum.com
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MsMollie
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 12:22:43 PM » |
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wHAT DID YOU SAY THE WEBSITE WAS AGAIHN? Good Afternoon MsMollie, When my first order of face paints came into the mail, they came on a Thursday, and my very first paid gig was on a Saturday! Needless to say I had no pictures to show, so this is what I did and I still use these books for the children to look at. I went and bought three plastic three ring flip folders. Drew out a templete of a couple different faces, one full view face and one side view face. I took poster paints, because they are cheap and I didn't want to use my expensive face paints on paper, I made one book for guy designs, one for gal designs and one for animal and tiger designs. if you noticed the colorful pictures that laid on the table side by side are of little cheek art samples that I drew out and painted. I am posting the templetes so you can see what they are. They are the size of a child head. I also print tons of these out for practice sheets, I then just treated the templete as if it were my model and painted designs on them, worked great, slid them in to paper protectors and put them into the three ring binder. Every design that I do, I have done myself, I would feel bad if I couldn't produce the design the client wanted, and if I didn't paint it, I don't offer it at a gig. But I do give you my permission to use any of mine if you need some pics to get started, www.ginanewsum@myphotobucket.com For pricing, at a pay as you paint gig, I have my prices on that big colorful stand up board, it clamps onto the table. It takes a while to figure out exactly what you want your set up to look like, it takes a long time to collect great pictures, I paint on mymself all the time, so I use alote of myself for pictures, and I have four daughters that I get them! and about 8 neighbor kids!  
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2010, 10:46:50 PM » |
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PLEASE DO NOT just take photos off the internet. Even google always says 'copyright rules may apply' under every photo search.
Its not just that you may offend the artists who originally did it, its that in some cases, especially with photos of kids, the artist only has permission to use that shot of the child for specific things in stated places. You could get them in trouble as well as yourself. I'm speaking from personal experience here - I had shots from a ids charity 'stolen' and spotted and the charity were going to take steps if they were not removed from the site they ended up on as she also promoted recreational drugs at festivals! (well, sold pot pipes etc).
Same for cutting photos out of books - they can and will defend their rights to the work they publish. Which is fair enough - selling those books is how they earn their wages.
As said, if you can't get together some kids etc to be your models, or paint yourself, use paper.
Its a small and active world wide community, face/ body painters. We often spot 'stolen' photos and tho it may be innocent there have been several cases of some painters (oddly usually NOT the ones who's work was taken) being really quite nasty to the 'borrowers' whether they were taken innocently or not.
You can always ASK the artist; in many cases it won't be their original idea but copied by them onto a new face, from a design in a book, chatsite or seen by another painter. That's fine.
Anything NOT your own work/ own version is false advertising at the very least.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2010, 11:14:00 PM » |
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Thank you Cat for posting info about pictures. I totally agree with you. When I first started I painted myself over and over again, to start my album, but I also drew out templetes of two types of faces and used poster paint to paint my designs on the paper and put them in a flip folder, worked great. But I agree and my thoughts are, if I ADVERTISE that face, that means that I can paint it, I too feel like I would be commiting false avertisment! I would be so embarrased to have a photo in my album that I didn't do and some one picked it out to have done on them, and I tried to paint it, and it looked nothing like the pic! And them have them make a comment about it! Ahh what are you suspost to say? "Ahh I had a bad say!" Thanks again Cat
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MsMollie
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2010, 07:11:40 AM » |
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yes, you got that right....if i do download anything, it stays at my house and i use it for reference only....i wouldn't feel right advertising someone else's work as mine....but i do look at it at home....
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2010, 08:26:02 PM » |
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I agree with Willdcatfin, ask before hand. There are quite a few prickly people out there when it comes to that. One source you can use though is anything from the Wolfe brothers.I took their class in Vegas and they encourage it, believing it will help the community as a whole. I am of the same mind. There are very few designs that haven't been done before.
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